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October 26, 2008, 10:25:34 pm
I figured this needed its own thread any way some folks over at tmobile offical forums said he got a drastic increase in battery life when he tried his curve charger more than 15 hours of heavy usage  and when he finally went to charge it it still had 37% battery life. By the way Supadupa86 :)  (I think that is his name found this). I just started a new thread for it  so it could be widely used.

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October 26, 2008, 10:28:34 pm
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October 26, 2008, 10:34:57 pm
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October 26, 2008, 10:40:43 pm
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October 26, 2008, 10:42:52 pm
De'nada!!

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October 26, 2008, 10:46:35 pm
Well that's an interesting find.

It'll be funny to see if there are any of you around here that see the same results with a different charger.

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October 26, 2008, 10:52:53 pm
I will try it, but the phone might still be going back.

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October 26, 2008, 10:56:53 pm
As far as I know the charger should have very little to do with it.  The charging "brains" are in the phone, the thing you plug into the wall just provides 5 volts.  It has no idea how full the battery is.  It's the same thing as saying try plugging it into a different outlet.  Unless the BB chargers provide more current or something. . .  not sure how that would change things either though.

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October 26, 2008, 11:02:28 pm
It's Supadupa86 buddy! LOL 

I figured this needed its own thread any way some folks over at tmobile offical forums said he got a drastic increase in battery life when he tried his curve charger more than 15 hours of heavy usage  and when he finally went to charge it it still had 37% battery life. By the way supadupa08 (I think that is his name found this). I just started a new thread for it  so it could be widely used.

http://forums.t-mobile.com/tmbl/board/message?board.id=87&thread.id=7876&view=by_date_ascending&page=2

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October 26, 2008, 11:07:47 pm
My bad I just guessed I didn't remeber exactly what it was I'll change it now. And @fiveohh it would make a difference if the charger has a higher voltage maybe the chargers are the wrong voltage or something... now don't knock it until we have some solid results from tmonews members..

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October 26, 2008, 11:28:44 pm
My bad I just guessed I didn't remeber exactly what it was I'll change it now. And @fiveohh it would make a difference if the charger has a higher voltage maybe the chargers are the wrong voltage or something... now don't knock it until we have some solid results from tmonews members..

That's ok. I looked on eBay and it seems you can get a curve charger for like $10 with free shipping. If no one else does it first I'll just buy one next week.

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October 27, 2008, 12:49:31 am
My bad I just guessed I didn't remeber exactly what it was I'll change it now. And @fiveohh it would make a difference if the charger has a higher voltage maybe the chargers are the wrong voltage or something... now don't knock it until we have some solid results from tmonews members..

I kinda doubt theres going to be any difference. My guess is the guy who offered up the advice's phone has just gotten calibrated with the battery.

I've charged mine through my pc's usb port, a car charger, g1s charger, and my bb pearl's and not found any difference.

That's ok. I looked on eBay and it seems you can get a curve charger for like $10 with free shipping. If no one else does it first I'll just buy one next week.


October 27, 2008, 01:33:30 am
I've been charging my phone with a mix of BB charger and the G1 charger. I have a bunch of BB chargers lying around.
The only difference between the chargers is that the G1 charger output at 1amp and the BB charger is at 0.75 amp.
So from reading about it, this is what I understand about how Lithium Ion batteries work.
I'm not an expert at this so if someone think this is wrong, please correct me.

The higher output charger like the G1 will charge the phone up slightly faster to a certain point but then it takes longer to go from that point to the full charge.
The lower output charger will take slightly longer to charge but it's more consistent throughout the range.
Also, I believe
So as an example..
G1 charger(higher output) - Takes 1 hour to go from 0 - 80% and then another hour to get to 100%.
BB charger(lower output) - Takes 1.5 hours to go from 0 - 80% but then only another 45 mins to get to 100%
Those are exaggerated examples but just to make a point.

So it might be a perception issue that the BB charger works better because the battery meter might just be more accurate with the slower charger.

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October 27, 2008, 07:38:13 am
As far as I know the charger should have very little to do with it.  The charging "brains" are in the phone, the thing you plug into the wall just provides 5 volts.  It has no idea how full the battery is.  It's the same thing as saying try plugging it into a different outlet.  Unless the BB chargers provide more current or something. . .  not sure how that would change things either though.

You are correct!  As long as voltage thresholds are met for the device, any charger should work.  If the device charges with the charger you are using, you should be okay.  Not sure if the G1 is like my Archos player.  It actually charges quicker using a wall charger, rather than from a USB source, but both charge the device to 100%.
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October 29, 2008, 10:31:01 pm
I like just using my PC to charge my phone.

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October 29, 2008, 11:57:01 pm
I've been doing some tests and tinkering and will post my findings tomorrow.  Hopefully my theory is correct.

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October 30, 2008, 07:28:38 am
A charger would have little effect on a new battery like the ones in our phones. Charging speed does not normally affect current drain on lithium ion batteries like the one in the device. I've had different results after running a lot of programs, and just after a reboot. It all depends on how fast the phone draws current from the battery.

Different voltages would have an adverse affect that you'd see, in that the phone would not charge. USB charging is meant to pull 5 volts from the pc/wall charger/car charger/whatever and as much current as is allowed. A lower voltage would cause the phone to not see that it's hooked into a charger.
PC USB ports are usually limited to 500mA per port, while the wall charger may allow up to 1000mA. This would explain why PC charging might take longer than with a wall charger.

Either way, once the battery is charged to 100%, however you choose to do it, the longevity of the battery depends on the current drain and the battery's capacity. As people have mentioned, the phones may have different calibration points, making it difficult to compare things like percentages of charge between devices. The only scientific way to test would be to have two phones running the same apps, booted at the same time and used the exact same way, only charged with different chargers.

I guess what i'm saying is that it shouldn't make a difference. :)

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October 30, 2008, 07:38:20 am
A charger would have little effect on a new battery like the ones in our phones. Charging speed does not normally affect current drain on lithium ion batteries like the one in the device. I've had different results after running a lot of programs, and just after a reboot. It all depends on how fast the phone draws current from the battery.

Different voltages would have an adverse affect that you'd see, in that the phone would not charge. USB charging is meant to pull 5 volts from the pc/wall charger/car charger/whatever and as much current as is allowed. A lower voltage would cause the phone to not see that it's hooked into a charger.
PC USB ports are usually limited to 500mA per port, while the wall charger may allow up to 1000mA. This would explain why PC charging might take longer than with a wall charger.

Either way, once the battery is charged to 100%, however you choose to do it, the longevity of the battery depends on the current drain and the battery's capacity. As people have mentioned, the phones may have different calibration points, making it difficult to compare things like percentages of charge between devices. The only scientific way to test would be to have two phones running the same apps, booted at the same time and used the exact same way, only charged with different chargers.

I guess what i'm saying is that it shouldn't make a difference. :)

+1 Nicely put.