FROM APP STore TO ANDROID YES YES!!!!

If we're lucky, we'll get a free version of the "I Am Rich" app.

Heck you could always write one! 

I actually thought about that.  I should right an app called "I am poor!"  I'll make up my own new mantra and put a picture of a trash can or something that represents being poor as the icon instead of the gem.

You'll probably get sued by the "I Am Rich" creator.

That happens, he can always just present his "I Am Poor" icon as a testament to how the "I Am Rich" creator, ain't gettin' sh*t anyway.

Gusteez: You've got to be quicker at picking up on that sarcasm in the future.

I hope everyone knows that I was being sarcastic. >_>

:0)

I was thinking about that. Someone make an I Am Rich program
where the gem moves around by the tilt of the phone (via accelerometer).
Just like the app from the London demo.

That'd be cool, but kind of above my skill level.  I don't know anything about how to program physics.

I wouldn't get too excited just yet.  We already know that the T Mobile store is going to be pretty draconian, and we have yet to hear what ways T Mobile is going to allow customers to load software on the G1.  If they say no to the Google App store and only on the T Mobile App store when they finally get apps for Android on it, I don't see any difference then the iPhone.  Again this is the downfall of Android: carriers can do whatever they want with the OS and that includes slaving app installs to a specific store.
Now it is a foregone conclusion that if they do it, within the week someone will crack it to load the Google Apple store, but this is no different that Jailbrake on the iHype.

And no I'm no an automatic pessimist.  I simply see most carriers out to make as much money as they can and if they slave the G1 to their store to make a profit off of it....well?  That is a more realistic view more then anything else.
Now that said; Google has had their hands in all the pies up til now.  I can't see them automatically picking a carrier that would impliment this.  However there isn't exactly an abundance of carriers in the US.  If everyone said heck no to free app stores Google would have no choice but to cave.  So we'll see what happens next week.

Actually your wrong on a couple aspects and don't take this the wrong way please.

Firstly T-Mobile said at CTIA in san francisco that the T-Mobile apps store thats in the works will not be for the Sidekick and Android for now. and ontop of that the store wouldn't even be ready until late next year.

Ontop of that. being a member the Open Handset Alliance and selling android phones comes with certain restrictions. the biggest one being the provider can't mess with the OS. they can add things but they are not allowed to remove ANYTHING from the OS so the App store will be there. This is the reason why AT&T and Verizon are not members of the OHA because they pretty much refuse to comply with that as they want to lock everything out so people will be forced to buy everything through them. Google does not want this T-mo and Sprint agreed to play nice so they're getting android.

And the providers can take 30-70% of the profits from apps depending on how much bandwidth they use. google takes nothing. they only oversee and make sure no one gets screwed.

This is news to me.  I've heard nothing on Google's requirements for running Android.  Heck there is a youtube video of an interview at those Android classes back in June?  July?  Where someone was asked what will keep a carrier from tweaking the OS and they didn't mention anything about the license, just that people will want a complete system.  AFAIK I thought the only license for Android was Apache Software License.

I was thinking about that. Someone make an I Am Rich program
where the gem moves around by the tilt of the phone (via accelerometer).
Just like the app from the London demo.

That would be cool! 

I bet they make it fairly easy to do with the SDK too, I may actually look into doing that just for fun!

I'm sure you guys have heard of the 'Trism' game that is making all the money for the iphone app stores lately ($250k so far through the iphone), I decided to send off the developer an email asking if he's planning on releasing it for the Android platform, here is his reply:

Good to meet you and thanks for the kind words! The Android platform is a great offering -- I love the open nature of it all. I'd love to dedicate some manhours to it, especially for that HTC Touch HD that just got announced. Currently my staff is tied up in iPhone projects, but who knows what will happen in the future!

Steve

Nothing concrete, but seems like iphone devs are eyeing the platform as well.

I'm sure you guys have heard of the 'Trism' game that is making all the money for the iphone app stores lately ($250k so far through the iphone), I decided to send off the developer an email asking if he's planning on releasing it for the Android platform, here is his reply:

Good to meet you and thanks for the kind words! The Android platform is a great offering -- I love the open nature of it all. I'd love to dedicate some manhours to it, especially for that HTC Touch HD that just got announced. Currently my staff is tied up in iPhone projects, but who knows what will happen in the future!

Steve

Nothing concrete, but seems like iphone devs are eyeing the platform as well.

yeah that was the whole focus of this thread unless you ment like a specific dev.

yeah that was the whole focus of this thread unless you ment like a specific dev.

Sorry yes, I did mean this specific dev because Trism seems to be what iphone users are all raving about, just passing along the email reply.  :]

yeah that was the whole focus of this thread unless you ment like a specific dev.

o gotcha
Sorry yes, I did mean this specific dev because Trism seems to be what iphone users are all raving about, just passing along the email reply.  :]

This is news to me.  I've heard nothing on Google's requirements for running Android.  Heck there is a youtube video of an interview at those Android classes back in June?  July?  Where someone was asked what will keep a carrier from tweaking the OS and they didn't mention anything about the license, just that people will want a complete system.  AFAIK I thought the only license for Android was Apache Software License.

It's more the requirements of being in the OHA. The whole point is to have everything open and for the providers to mass market and sell android phones they have to agree to the rules of the OHA which basically says they can't lock anything out without showing DAMN good reason why they should be allowed. for example they'll lock out the 5.99 T-zones plan because they want people to pay for the total internet plan, that google would allow. Locking out features like using your own mp3s for ringtones and stuff like that they're not allowed to block. They can however change aspects of the device for use on the service.

For example, in your contacts theres a section called Favorites in android. for t-mobile Favorites will probably be replaced with the myfaves. And sprint will probably add all their NFL and TV stuff.

And as far as the apps store goes, t-mobile knows not to mess with that they've seen the success of the iPhone apps store and they know android will be the same way and they make money from it so they're not gonnna mess with that.

These are the reasons why Verizon and AT&T haven't joined the alliance because they don't like their phones to be totally open. AT&T might join eventually but unless Sprint and T-Mobile start kicking Verizon's ass like crazy they will never agree to the terms of the OHA.

It's more the requirements of being in the OHA. The whole point is to have everything open and for the providers to mass market and sell android phones they have to agree to the rules of the OHA which basically says they can't lock anything out without showing DAMN good reason why they should be allowed. for example they'll lock out the 5.99 T-zones plan because they want people to pay for the total internet plan, that google would allow. Locking out features like using your own mp3s for ringtones and stuff like that they're not allowed to block. They can however change aspects of the device for use on the service.

Open does not mean the carrier has to give away the service for whatever price is most convenient for you.  Open means the carrier can't prevent you from installing the apps you want and they can't lock down any of the features included on the OS.  This does NOT meant that tzones 5.99 will work for web browsing, and I promise you this will not be the case.  It has been reported in several places that this will require its own data plan, and at the very least, will require the 19.99 total internet plan.

It's more the requirements of being in the OHA. The whole point is to have everything open and for the providers to mass market and sell android phones they have to agree to the rules of the OHA which basically says they can't lock anything out without showing DAMN good reason why they should be allowed. for example they'll lock out the 5.99 T-zones plan because they want people to pay for the total internet plan, that google would allow. Locking out features like using your own mp3s for ringtones and stuff like that they're not allowed to block. They can however change aspects of the device for use on the service.

Open does not mean the carrier has to give away the service for whatever price is most convenient for you.  Open means the carrier can't prevent you from installing the apps you want and they can't lock down any of the features included on the OS.  This does NOT meant that tzones 5.99 will work for web browsing, and I promise you this will not be the case.  It has been reported in several places that this will require its own data plan, and at the very least, will require the 19.99 total internet plan.

wait.. I believe that's what hes said. That would be one of the types of exceptions.
But they will not lockout something like being able to change the dialer, or downloading
random android apps from some developers personal website.

yea you read it a bit wrong there lol. They can request thinks like locking out the 5.99 plan and forcing everyone to use the full internet but they can't remove anything from the OS or lock anything from the OS. They also can't block any Apps from the Android Marketplace unless they are harmful to the user.

As far as the 5.99 plan goes. it wouldn't surprise me if someone hacks that to work though. but i'll be paying for the $20 total internet and my $10 myfaves unlimited msg plan.