G-Mobile (Google)

OHA can not own as its just an organization

Of course they can own things just like any organization.  Who do you think owns the office furniture at the OHA?  The OHA does, that's who. 

But in the news Android is tied to Google and Android phones always have Google apps.

That doesn't mean they own it.  Own is a legal definition.  Somebody issues a license to distribute.  That somebody is the OHA. 

OHA can not own as its just an organization

Of course they can own things just like any organization.  Who do you think owns the office furniture at the OHA?  The OHA does, that's who.  

But in the news Android is tied to Google and Android phones always have Google apps.

That doesn't mean they own it.  Own is a legal definition.  Somebody issues a license to distribute.  That somebody is the OHA.  

Its just a place for any OS to join if they feel free. Apple can join it if they chose to. Android is just the only one to join that organization specifically because Google said yes we will share our platform with the world and do something that many other companies don't do. Android stock is invested in GOOG.

http://www.reuters.com/finance/stocks/companyProfile?rpc=66&symbol=GOOG.O

What is the Open Handset Alliance™?
The Open Handset Alliance is a group of 80 technology and mobile companies who have come together to accelerate innovation in mobile and offer consumers a richer, less expensive, and better mobile experience. Together we have developed Android™, the first complete, open, and free mobile platform. We are committed to commercially deploy handsets and services using the Android Platform.

I could see google installing Maps, Search, Navigation, etc on all devices with ads integrated into all the services and providing a free 25-50mb's of data per month. That would make a profit still because of the small amount of data and ad revenue. I could see them having a network, and they'd probably aggresively build out HSPA+ to cover the same footprint as like Verizon.

AT&T has way more money than Google. Google would sorta have to crunch to make up for a purchase like this. But in a way i'd rather have Google integrate with T-Mobile and become Google Mobile. Some T-Mobile needs to be kept.

AT&T has way more money than Google. Google would sorta have to crunch to make up for a purchase like this. But in a way i'd rather have Google integrate with T-Mobile and become Google Mobile. Some T-Mobile needs to be kept.

I dont know where you get your info, but just because ATTs market cap is 20B higher than Googles, does not mean they would have to scrape to buy Tmobile. I think Google is in a far better position to make the purchase than ATT. Google has been around for a fraction of the amount of time that ATT has....

Wikipedia look at the revenues.

AT&T US$ 124.280 billion (2010)
Google US$ 29.321 billion (2010)

Google's money only really comes from advertising mostly though. ATT has wireline, wireless, MVNOs, etc

Yea what i'm saying is that the deal went for $39 billion right? With a revenue of 29.321 which is 2010's report in which they probably have made a bit more so far among with stock I think things would be tight for Google if they were to pay $39 billion for T-Mobile.

Care to revisit this subject with Googles purchase of Motorola Mobile today?

Theres still a revenue problem. It can be done but things are tight.

Anyone else but AT&T & Verizon.. But G-Mobile sounds catchy =)  I hope Google talks about taking over T-Mobile.

I did something that a majority of you may not like but jet. But I thought about it and after a while a bunch of pros and cons and ideas began populating on this Google thing.

Google currently is in the 9 Billion a quarter revenue stage. Average 35 - 40 Billion yearly. If they decided to purchase T-Mobile things would be hard for them on income wise at first but businesses can get loans or pay them in a timely manner in many ways.

So if Google were to buy T-Mobile would they lay off some ppl to make this transaction worth while? Well it seems no matter who buys them some employees will probably get cut at first but not nearly as many as in say a takeover by AT&T.

Google Mobile/Google Wireless/G-Mobile could keep the prices. But they also have been deploying fiber 1Gbps internet slowly to homes. So what if Google obtained T-Mobile's over 32 Million subs and somehow deployed this fiber to work over cellular as a 1Gbps cellular network? Used it to sell VoIP service and Fiber internet through T-Mobile? Also deliver speeds to the cellular users through some network. For a fact when Google ever puts their name on something and it depends on what it is people go bonkers for it. So if they had T-Mobile could it cause an issue with others gaining customers. Could Google actually may AT&T & Verizon lose several millions since now they own their own mobile provider. What about lawsuits? Apple and Microsoft and any other company can sue them over the fact they think they cater to Android? How would Google work with the other OS makers? There could be an issue with Antitrust. There may be reasons why Google or any OS/Cell phone manufacturer wouldn't purchase something like this.

I was thinking about the Quarterly cost for Google also.. They will have to buy the phones from the manufactures, upkeep the network, and upgrade it nationwide.. might even have to buy more spectrum, and that is costly.. Tmo can never do that also w/o some backing from a big company.. I kind of wish Comcast will buy them since Comcast doesn't have a Mobile/Wireless division like AT&T and Verizon does.. and Comcast has $$$$$$$.. Just hopefully they keep Tmo like it is.. but it'll be better than AT&T, since they'll just eat the competition.

Why would u want a company like AT&T to buy T-Mobile? Comcast acts the same way as AT&T and they have cable market domination in at least 40 states vs. others who aren't nearly in 10.

Comcast earns just about the same amount of money Google does. This also applies to them as well. They would have a hard time. They have the poorest customer service. They tend to rip off people and their internet is known to be poor. Sounds like AT&T.

Why are you guys talking about people buying Tmobile? It's a done deal with ATT, and they have hired people to look into divesting assets. Why would they hire bankers and lawyers to handle divesting assets if they really didn't think the deal was going through. I love Tmobile but it's a dead man walking.

Because AT&T thinks it'll pass doesn't mean it will. AT&T has always had everything pass but when it came to this people spoke against it for the first time. They could be doing all of this for nothing.

I hear that Viper but if not ATT who?  It's not gonna be Google, that would not get approved.  No way they would let one company own an OS, a device manufacturer and be a provider.  Sprint?   There is nothing I have to say, their track record shows their inability to do acquisitions.  Verizon, no don't want to bother spending money to integrate and they don't need T-Mobile.  ATT says they need T-Mobile and you can choose whether to believe that or not, personally I don't I think they are just being lazy and don't want to build out their network and would rather just buy it.  For T-Mo to survive somebody has to want to buy them cause DT wants to dump them and the only really logical choice is ATT, unless some other Telecom from Europe comes in but I don't think that would happen.

Vodafone Group Plc has already shown interest in this deal. Sell the 45% back to Verizon and let them on their way with a GSM network. Vodafone Group plc has been poking their noses in the US since around 2004 on GSM specific carriers such as AT&T, Cingular & T-Mobile. Even if the deal failed theres a better chance Google would receive approval than AT&T because Google is not in the mobile carrier business but your right there is issues with them on Android. If its not neither one there are others who will come to the plate after the deal fails of course.

Anyways you may think i'm obsessed with Vodafone but i'm not. However, this is how I became interested in letting Vodafone buy T-Mobile USA.

I had found out some info dating back to the AT&T Wireless and Cingular separate company days. The information I found out was even tho they owned 45% of Verizon they weren't necessary happy that they weren't the ones with complete control over the company. Vodafone and Verizon did a good job on the network and they now have over 106 Million subscribers. Vodafone has 45% of that and that equals to at least 50 Million they have. But like I said Vodafone was not happy that they could not advertise Vodafone in the US and the products Verizon had they had to put Verizons logo on them. This bothered them and so they began to bid on these GSM deals. As we know Vodafone is a GSM carrier nationwide they don't deal with CDMA and so the first auction they bidded on was AT&T Wireless. However, AT&T Wireless and Cingular have ties. Cingular came in with a bid booming Vodafone out and Cingular in which got AT&T Wireless. Next deal was Cingular. Vodafone also poked their noses into this one but AT&T this time bid for Cingular and also the offer was way higher. The two merged basically went to the top of the market. Now AT&T wants T-Mobile. Poor Vodafone wants T-Mobile too. AT&T again offered around 15 Billion more than Vodafone offered. However, at first AT&T's offer was less and they drastically boosted their bid to outsmart Vodafone and this is how AT&T got it. Vodafone has done alot of work into trying and showing they want a GSM carrier but its always some AT&T company bidding them out. I say deny this duopoly deal and let Vodafone buy T-Mobile so finally Vodafone has a company in full and their Vodafone branding can finally come to the USA. I myself feel sorry for Vodafone its only an AT&T company keeping them from full operations. It like satan going after an angel.

Why are you guys talking about people buying Tmobile? It's a done deal with ATT, and they have hired people to look into divesting assets.

Exactly.  The only thing we're waiting on now is to find out which markets WON'T get to come to AT&T.  They'll get divested to Sprint or Verizon or maybe even Cricket or MetroPCS.  LOL

I think Darkjedi would disagree with that its a done deal because it hasn't even passed and only Verizon or Sprint would get customers.