ATT JUST BOUGHT T-MOBILE!

Its 70Mbps like saying HSPA+ 42 but u can only hit 28. They give a real hard estimate.

14 Mbps is an improvement for me, IF that was my "home" area, but it is not. But I did see 4G light up for a few hours at home and in Hagerstown, MD 8 air miles away yesterday. Testing before permanent on I suppose. best to all

AT&T declines in Q2. Among everyone except Verizon so far. T-Mobiles earning will be available Aug. 4.

AT&T declines in Q2. Among everyone except Verizon so far. T-Mobiles earning will be available Aug. 4.

can't wait to see Tmo's

Oh yes.

Bad news is.

MetroPCS was very affected this quarter and stocks dropped 30% afterwards.
Sprint added over 1 Million customers but their stock dropped 17% afterwards due to a loss somewhere.
AT&T added only 1.1 Million customers but their stock dropped around 2% afterwards but theres a downside AT&T has dropped the amount the customers they add by 500,000 - 1,000,000 the upside to this is the iPhone it still seems to keep them afloat. Another downside is their net has dropped.
Verizon added 1.3 Million customers. Verizon actually added over 1 Million postpaid in which no other company has even hit 500,000 postpaid activations including AT&T. Downside is they experienced yet around 2% in stock drop.
T-Mobiles report isn't scheduled till Aug. 4.

DT lists T-Mobile USA as "DISCONTINUED OPERATIONS".

In Q2 T-Mobile lost 50,000 subscribers vs 99,000 in Q1. Postpaid adds we're up to 256,000 vs 192,000 in Q1. T-Mobile lost 281,000 subscribers in Q2 vs. 382,000 in Q1.

DATA ARPU is UP. Contract ARPU is UP. Revenue is the same as last quarter.

Prepaid customers added we're 231,000 vs. 283,000 in Q1.

On each side they lost 25,000 customers each on contract and prepaid.

Thats actually not as bad.. Thought it was gonna be worse.. they actually did a bit better than last quarter.

Its not that bad overall since they've been losing. Before the loss they we're at 33.7 Million right? Now 32.5 Million over 2 years. So they aren't losing customers left to right.

T-mobile needs this iPhone 5 with AWS support badly. No if/ands/or buts about it.

Like that would help much and why would Apple do such a thing they have a 1/3 of what AT&T & Verizon has.

It would help tho.. hopefully it does land on Tmo so we can stop hearing the rumors.

Yes there will be some ppl who come back however, it wouldn't be like the rest as they sell iPhones like hotcakes.

Like that would help much and why would Apple do such a thing they have a 1/3 of what AT&T & Verizon has.

Because they seek total domination in the smartphone market.  2011 is the year the iPhone5 goes crazy in the U.S. 

Look at how much profit Apple is earning on smartphones compared to the other companies:

http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2011/07/30/how-apple-is-sucking-the-profit-out-of-the-mobile-phone-market/

Almost 65%!  Nokia, Motorola, LG and Sony Ericsson are all at 0%.  The only other companies to make some profit off of smartphones are Samsung, RIM and HTC. 

But with the iPhone being released on Sprint and T-Mobile, Apple is going to put the last blow to Android.  That and all of the patent lawsuits, and Google can go back to working on search engines.  Companies can't keep expecting to make devices when they're not profitable.

So that answers the original question of why Apple will bring the iPhone to T-Mobile. 

Like that would help much and why would Apple do such a thing they have a 1/3 of what AT&T & Verizon has.

Because they seek total domination in the smartphone market.  2011 is the year the iPhone5 goes crazy in the U.S.  

Look at how much profit Apple is earning on smartphones compared to the other companies:

http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2011/07/30/how-apple-is-sucking-the-profit-out-of-the-mobile-phone-market/

Almost 65%!  Nokia, Motorola, LG and Sony Ericsson are all at 0%.  The only other companies to make some profit off of smartphones are Samsung, RIM and HTC.  

But with the iPhone being released on Sprint and T-Mobile, Apple is going to put the last blow to Android.  That and all of the patent lawsuits, and Google can go back to working on search engines.  Companies can't keep expecting to make devices when they're not profitable.

So that answers the original question of why Apple will bring the iPhone to T-Mobile.  

I find that data for profit and not marketshare. Just to let you know the iPhone does not sell well everywhere its put and putting it on T-Mobile could lead to the most profitable device on the carrier. However, you need a bunch of customers who want the phone and are willing to switch. Well they might want the iPhone however, they don't want it on T-Mobile. But still Android dominates because more ppl in this world have Androids and it continues to increase everyday.

I find a problem with the motorola and LG part of the graph. They indeed should have some kind of marketshare other than 0%.

I find that data for profit and not marketshare.

Yes, that's what that graph is all about.  Profit, not marketshare.  It doesn't matter what marketshare Android has.  If the manufacturers aren't making any profit (or making small profit) selling them, then it won't be around for long. 

Apple is the one making the majority of profit off of smartphones.  As they expand to the other major carriers in the U.S, their profit will continue to grow. 

Also as more and more people get disenchanted with their Android devices, they too will come to Apple.  Ever hear of the G2X lawsuit for example.  Android has no quality control and poor quality devices are released with Android including devices that freeze, reboot, and have low battery life.  Android is on the way out...

Due to the nature of Android of how well it sells I wouldn't think so. Not all handsets are plagued and I will use my myTouch 4G as an example. My device does not freeze, it does not reboot on me and I can get 20 hours of battery life with it on moderate to heavy usage with it overclocked to 1.5 GHz. There are going to be more complaints about Android due to there are many more handsets produced by multiple manufacturers. Apple has 1 phone usually per year. Apple can make more profit because they are the ones handling the deals to the carriers while with Android the manufacturer does these deals but with multiple models. So the money gets scattered across. Eventually within the years manufacturers will continue to increase profit and there will probably be some that won't make them any longer. However, things do come to an end always eventually and both Apple and Android could end due to any reason.

G2x problem was LG's fault it didn't have to do with Android nor had to do with the device itself. It was a software build fault for the device. You could root it and put a custom ROM on it and it'll be fine. This is basically the problem with many devices that have the freezing, rebooting and battery loss in short time issues. These companies that produce the software and firmware for the device do not necessarily always do a good job and they've had the time to make sure everything is working great before it hits the shelf. But that is not always the case. They need more skilled people and I recommend they hire those that are in the hacking ROM community because they do a better job with Android and its sad.

Good evening all. Roving reporter Blacksheep427 bringing the latest news while daring to learn in a University location to better himself.  

I agree with your take Viper. I admit my ThunderBolt was a pain with poor battery, re-booting issues, etc. Reboots solved with OTA #2 and battery life has improved after battery "break-in" time period. Apple and the iPhone series has fewer issues. But, on the other hand, there is but a few iPhone choices. I would much rather take the Android phone experience where I am "permitted" to install whatever apps I want and customize as I see fit. (As it is, we all deal with the Service Provider bloatware packages. At least until owner roots, that is.) For me, that equates much better than cookie cutter Apple. That said, Apple's phone has introduced a lot of innovative features that others have mimicked.

Android does suffer from almost too many choices in designs, OS's (retire some of the really old ones), and manufacturers, but I would not want to change that portion of Android. Personally, I would say they all need on the same page for product testing and OTA updating protocols.

BTW: VZW lit 4G in Hagerstown, MD / Greencastle, PA several times in the last week. Still in test mode though, as it's not constantly on yet.

Roving reporter 427 out. baa baa y'all. And best wishes to every wireless user...

Good evening all. Roving reporter Blacksheep427 bringing the latest news while daring to learn in a University location to better himself. 

I agree with your take Viper. I admit my ThunderBolt was a pain with poor battery, re-booting issues, etc. Reboots solved with OTA #2 and battery life has improved after battery "break-in" time period. Apple and the iPhone series has fewer issues. But, on the other hand, there is but a few iPhone choices. I would much rather take the Android phone experience where I am "permitted" to install whatever apps I want and customize as I see fit. (As it is, we all deal with the Service Provider bloatware packages. At least until owner roots, that is.) For me, that equates much better than cookie cutter Apple. That said, Apple's phone has introduced a lot of innovative features that others have mimicked.

Android does suffer from almost too many choices in designs, OS's (retire some of the really old ones), and manufacturers, but I would not want to change that portion of Android. Personally, I would say they all need on the same page for product testing and OTA updating protocols.

BTW: VZW lit 4G in Hagerstown, MD / Greencastle, PA several times in the last week. Still in test mode though, as it's not constantly on yet.

Roving reporter 427 out. baa baa y'all. And best wishes to every wireless user...

Well it has fewer issues due to the fact that Apple has 1 year to prepare 1 phone for launch and to support that 1 NEW phone with their other few models.

Agreed 100%. Apple's business model works. One model to deal with at a time and a few variants that change data capacity, and that is it, more or less. Oh I forgot the white one. Then they sell to two companies. Did I miss anything? I'm not saying that their business model or product is wrong, but the product is not for me; I like a few more choices to make my phone "my phone". Do they make a profit? Apparently yes, or they would stop making the iPhone. baa 4 now...