POLL: Nokia-Soft: Good for Tech and Investors or Not?

With the news of Microsoft and Nokia entering a Partnership towards WP7 world domination and "taking on" Google and Apple, what are your thoughts on the news?

Do you support the partnership?

Do you think it's good for tech competition?

Do you dislike the news and wish them failure?

Do you intend to stay with your current solution and want to "wait and see"?

Time will tell if Nokia can make a comeback in the US and whether or nor WP7 will be really relevant.  I have had Blackberry and now Android and am open to trying WP7 after some maturation and a device comes out that makes me want it bad enough to try WP7.

This can't work when Microsoft is closed source.

This can't work when Microsoft is closed source.

Apple is closed source and they're doing fine.  Some would say that close source leads to more innovation because the companies doing the developing reap more profits and thus have more incentive.  Google reaps no direct profits off of Android, and the lack of incentive shows in their efforts. 

The reason why many are angry because Nokia was open source. Apple has always been closed source so its not a big deal. But Microsoft is closed source & many are disappointed.

The reason why many are angry because Nokia was open source. Apple has always been closed source so its not a big deal. But Microsoft is closed source & many are disappointed.

Symbian was open source, only because of Nokia's generosity.  They bought the company behind Symbian OS and contributed it to the Symbian foundation.  But then other supporters of the project never provided the support that they agreed to do.  If people are angry, then they should be angry and those who bailed such as:

Sony Ericsson, NTT DoCoMo, Motorola, Texas Instruments, Vodafone, LG Electronics, Samsung Electronics, STMicroelectronics and AT&T.

Nokia was the only company really doing anything with it.  Finally they said, why should they pull all of the weight by themselves, when everybody else had bailed.

I understand that but I understand why. They should've listened to everyone & went to Android instead. I haven't had any issues in Gingerbread w/ force closes or anything its very smooth.

I understand that but I understand why. They should've listened to everyone & went to Android instead. I haven't had any issues in Gingerbread w/ force closes or anything its very smooth.

It was all a question of "how much money will you give me".

Android would have been great for consumers, but the death of Nokia. Nokia's still reduced to the role of "just another OEM" on WP7 but they've got a better deal there. Nokia's at least the de facto first-party hardware manufacturer for WP7 now. On Android, they'd have to compete against the likes of Samsung, Motorola, HTC, Sony Ericsson and the countless Chinese Android manufacturers.

Nokia's still reduced to the role of "just another OEM" on WP7 but they've got a better deal there. Nokia's at least the de facto first-party hardware manufacturer for WP7 now. On Android, they'd have to compete against the likes of Samsung, Motorola, HTC, Sony Ericsson and the countless Chinese Android manufacturers.

Very good point.  Microsoft engineers will roll out the red carpet for Nokia.  They'll design the operating system around the Nokia devices. 

If they went with Android, all engineering would have to be done on their own.  And you make the excellent point, that they would be fighting to distinguish themselves amongst all of the other Android manufacturers who had got there first. 

It's an all around good move for Nokia.  They've got Steve Ballmer working hard for them---well worth whatever they have to pay for WP7. 

Have Microsoft go open source since ppl are complaining on the closed source part. Everything should be open source or what I call hybrid. Have an open source team that volunteers w/ a small closed source team. There you go.

Have Microsoft go open source since ppl are complaining on the closed source part. Everything should be open source or what I call hybrid.

Anybody who needs or wants open source has Android.  Microsoft is in business to make a profit for their shareholders.  They're under no obligation to give out freebie operating systems...

Doesn't mean they have to give freebie OS's. They can still prohibit anyone from using their code for their own OS. You make the rules however you want. There are still rules for open source.

Nokiasoft for the win.

Nobody is "complaining" about MS not being open source other than those that try to make a "religious-either-or" debate out of it (and the same goes the other way around too).
Fact is, open vs closed source is a largly pointless philosophical, hypothetical and opinionated debate and first of all you need to define what "open" and "closed" is to begin with.
There are enough arguments pro and con both positions, so in the end it's just a business decision by the authors of the software -> whatever best suits their needs.

And no, I seriously doubt MS will design (or continue to develop) WP7 around Nokia devices. When was the last time MS developed a software platform around a specific vendor's hardware platform (other than the ones they own themselves, like xbox etc)?

It was the Symbian Developers that were complaining about not going Android & that WP7 is closed source.

Really? Where?
I see reports of the Symbian dev's (understandably) being unhappy about Nokia dropping the OS - job security etc - but nothing about them preferring one platform over the other.

Also, while on the subject of open source, keep in mind that while Android is open source, Java is not. The development tools for Java are free, but so are the ones for .Net and *both* Oracle and MS could pull the plug at any time they chose to. Neither of them will likely do that, but they both could.
Point being, the debate is not as black and white as it seems.

Hmmm then why are ppl complaining after the move to WP7.

Verizon is saying NO to Nokia-Microsoft: http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/15/verizon-cto-we-dont-need-the-nokia-microsoft-partnership-an/

Google tried to get Nokia to do Android: http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/15/eric-schmidt-we-certainly-tried-to-get-nokia-to-use-android/

Motorola says NO to WP7 cuz its closed platform & doesn't have all the features yet: http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/15/motorola-exec-nearly-rules-out-windows-phone-completely-laments/

I don't see how any of those articles prove your point .. ??

Well Nokia has lost 25% of its Value. I think that does say something that they don't like the deal & they want CEO Steven Elop out. Skype is ready to hire the workers Elop lays off. If they went Android there wouldn't be a problem because its open source.

UPDATE: Nokia has dropped Windows Phone 7 after a few days of problems. This article is unclear to me. So it maybe that they just dropped 7 lol or they will just put 7.5 on handsets instead.

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/no-windows-phone-7-for-nokia-no-really-/11439?tag=content;search-results-rivers

If they went Android there wouldn't be a problem because its open source.

Wow. Open Souce equals stock value ... ???
Sorry, but that makes no sense whatsoever.