LG Optimus 2x Released.

I normally get about 4-5mb download speeds on my MT4G in Cleveland, OH area-I tested the Incredible S in the same area and got the same speeds even though the phone is a 3G only device.

No, the Incredible S has the same HSPA+ download rating as the MT4G of 14.4.  It meets T-Mobile's threshold to be called 4G which is why you're getting the same speed.  

See this comparison:

http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3788&idPhone2=3520

I thought I said the same thing

I normally get about 4-5mb download speeds on my MT4G in Cleveland, OH area-I tested the Incredible S in the same area and got the same speeds even though the phone is a 3G only device.

No, the Incredible S has the same HSPA+ download rating as the MT4G of 14.4.  It meets T-Mobile's threshold to be called 4G which is why you're getting the same speed. 

See this comparison:

http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3788&idPhone2=3520

Trust me its just LG's crappy software. Also the LED notifications is fixed with a non root app that lights up the buttons!

OK, one data point to consider as an advantage of the g2x over the pyramid is with a higher resolution screen, it takes more processing power to drive more pixels. so assuming cpu/gpus are the same, not that they are between this and the pyramid, future gaming might suffer on the pyramid because the cores will need to work harder with a higher resolution. so gamers need to take that into consideration, maybe the g2x is a better choice. i still like higher resolution because i don't do a lot of high end gaming, but it's not as cut and dry as larger screen is better when comparing this phone to the pyramid.

The g2x has 800x480

Also the LED notifications is fixed with a non root app that lights up the buttons!

I've heard of this for other LED-less devices.  Has somebody already done this for the Optimus 2X specifically?  Gotta link to that app or thread referencing it?
Thx.

The g2x has 800x480

sorry i should have said compared to the htc pyramid's qhd screen the g2x may be a better choice for gaming intensive applications. updated previous post.

Ohh, I see. I agree, I dont need to see half the res of a 50" tv on my 4" phone.

The g2x has 800x480

sorry i should have said compared to the htc pyramid's qhd screen the g2x may be a better choice for gaming intensive applications. updated previous post.

The HTC Pyramid will be fine.. its using Qualcomm's latest 8X60 SoC which will also be in the HTC Evo 3D.. benchmarks showed its at the top (for now @ 800x480) for its GPU: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4243/dual-core-snapdragon-gpu-performance-1-5-ghz-msm8660-adreno-220-benchmarks .. its dual-core, but using Cortex A8 instead of the new Cortex A9.

I thought I said the same thing

You said the Incredible S "is a 3G only device".  I was showing that by T-Mobile's definition it is a 4G device. 

Ok, got it and I was going by the official specs

I thought I said the same thing

You said the Incredible S "is a 3G only device".  I was showing that by T-Mobile's definition it is a 4G device. 

Back to G2x conversation... what do you guys think; order online, or buy in store?

Back to G2x conversation... what do you guys think; order online, or buy in store?

Look at it in person first.. I never buy a phone w/o my own hands on experience.

Same, but I dont wanna wait. Why couldn't they release it all april 15th!

Some good news if you're interested in the G2x.

Cyanogen himself is getting one, and ClockWork Recovery has already been ported over. Open bootloader, and it's a sure lock to get CM. Chris Soyars and kmobs from the CM team are also getting the G2x. The G2x looks to be the dev phone for this generation.

^ Good news!

You know how 2.3/2.4 is similar to 2.0/2.1? Well I was wondering, if we will see 2.4..I'd hate for it to end up like 2.0/2.1 where many apps only support 2.1, not 2.0.

Some good news if you're interested in the G2x.

Cyanogen himself is getting one, and ClockWork Recovery has already been ported over. Open bootloader, and it's a sure lock to get CM. Chris Soyars and kmobs from the CM team are also getting the G2x. The G2x looks to be the dev phone for this generation.

so cool, that makes me want to get it even more, not sure i can wait for the pyramid... we shall see. as for getting it at the store or online, does it matter if you have 30 days in CA, 14-15 everywhere else to return it via buyer's remorse?

I think it just makes more sense to buy in store..
April 15th is a friday, so it most likely wont ship til monday which is already april 18th. At best you could get in the 19th. One more day and you can try it in store.

I think it just makes more sense to buy in store..
April 15th is a friday, so it most likely wont ship til monday which is already april 18th. At best you could get in the 19th. One more day and you can try it in store.

i doubt that this will happen but what if, and that is a big what if, the g2x is sold out in store? then ordering online might be better, just thinkin'. i'm so on the fence right now. maybe htc's announcement on the 12th might solidify my decision. here is what i am thinking right now:

The htc pyramid or whatever it is called better have qhd, netflix streaming capability, and be available early June at the latest i might wait for it. nfc might be a plus. i also noticed that htc phones are now implemented with wireless charge capability (see verizon wireless charging announcement) as i've seen in the reviews how the thunderbolt and incredible 2 have contacts to support this, i may be smoking something though! i've already read that lg has wireless charging capability too but not sure for the g2x. cyanogen supporting the g2x is a big plus for me because i don't think i can use a < gingerbread os phone. since the g2x is so rootable this is great. in addition the att 3g band support is nice if that turns out to be true as we head towards the inevitable att black hole, i'm debating if i should jump ship when the time comes and they cancel my oh so affordable @home service, add a lines, and legacy unlimited data plans. i compared my friend's sprint evo and my other friend's vibrant with my nexus one that i currently use and the evo is kind of chunky. playing angry birds notice the 4" vibrant seems a nice size compared to my N1, not that i play that stuff! anyway, if the htc has indeed slimmed down the 4.3" form fact that would be compelling. also the htc cameras seem to have come a long way. wonder if they will be better than the g2x camera module. ok, more ramblings from a crazed phone fan as the g2x release draws near. in case anyone is wondering, i'm waiting till after the g2x hits stores...

HTC is superior, and I'd prefer that, but I have a g1...there hasn't been ANY proof of the Pyramid going to tmo..just the phone pictures. It'll probably be announced in europe to be coming out in late may/june there, and get to us a month later..so like july or june. I can't wait an extra 3 months for a phone that may or may not come out, when I can have the best phone with stock android with a quick upgrade to gingerbread a month after. And the great dev support will make it better. I also agree about the 4.3 screen, it'd be nice, but after holding the thunderbolt and stuff, its just so big..maybe with a higher resolution I'd like it better. 4" is perfect..big enough for watching videos and playing games, and it still looks good without qHD