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October 15, 2009, 05:08:36 pm

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October 15, 2009, 05:16:05 pm
Oh boy...let's not start this now!!! I still haven't received my pre-order N900 yet. Looks cool and sexy though!

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October 15, 2009, 08:06:02 pm
isnt this the second phone thats missing.
  

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October 16, 2009, 12:52:28 am
All I want is an N900 with a capacitive screen and a better keyboard.  That's literally all I want.  In life.  :p

Hopefully if T-Mobile is waiting until early next year to pick up the N900 they pick this up instead.

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October 16, 2009, 01:49:29 am
This is the other N series T-mobile is getting! Please!

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October 16, 2009, 06:55:06 pm
This is the other N series T-mobile is getting! Please!
Haha that would be awesome if this turns out to be the other N series device.

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October 17, 2009, 02:59:26 am
This is the other N series T-mobile is getting! Please!
Haha that would be awesome if this turns out to be the other N series device.
I guess, but wouldn't that be sort of redundant?  They should get this instead of the N900.  It's like the same thing, only with capacitive touch and maybe Maemo 6.  For all we know, this is the US-tailored version of the N900, since it's not like many of us are going to need a resistive screen for handwriting recognition (like for Asian characters).

Not that a resistive screen is required for handwriting recognition, but that's been Nokia's excuse.

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October 17, 2009, 11:18:20 am
As I posted in another thread...

1. The 'N920' photo is obviously bogus.  VERY bogus.

2. The N920(?) may have a capacitive screen (or not), but may not have physical keyboard.  If you really want (or need) a physical keyboard you may not want to wait for the N920(?).  Besides, a good resistive screen (and the N900's appears to be very good) can offer both the finger-friendly use of a capacitive plus precision input a capacitive can't.  So neither type is necessarily 'better' than the other.  It depends on how well each type of screen is implemented and how well the UI works with each type. 

3. The N900 isn't even released yet.  The next generation (N920?) is about a year away.  That's a long wait.  There's always something better just around the corner anyway.  These days state-of-the-art hardware is state-of-the-art for about 15 minutes.  By the time the N920(?) is about to be released people will be wondering if they should wait for the N940.  So goes the endless loop of expectation of the Next Great Thing.  At some point, ya just gotta join the party, buy what appeals to you the most that's actually available.

4. With the N900, the hardware is very good yes, but is not the really point.  It's really about launching the Maemo OS as a OS for smartphones.  About making smartphones much more capable than an iPhone or Android phones.   Actually into a real pocket computer, a desktop experience in your pocket.  There's nothing else like Maemo.  It's already by far the most open, powerful mobile OS available and will improve even more quickly.  I'll say that again...Maemo is already by far the most open, powerful mobile OS available.

Can't wait for my N900 to get here...
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October 17, 2009, 01:54:22 pm
The N920 has no keyboard and that is why Maemo 6 will be on it (Touch centric OS).

I still wonder if 5 and 6 will be blended together or is 6 replacing 5?

N900 = Both VK and KB
N920 = Touch tablet (yes the images are shopped, but Nokia has basically said the next device will be same series level, but touch only.

I am the most paranoid and picky person around (as most of you know), so if I am not worried about the N900 being supersede within a few months, you should not be worried- IMHO.  N900 and N920 are for different users, but one has a keyboard and the other will not have one and may have a bigger screen.  Devs insist it will be capacitive though.

I think the G1 display is a little too sensitive, so a little less is good for me.  Plus you have more options with resistive (stylus, finger with or without glove).  A very sensitive resistive display seems a better option to me.
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October 17, 2009, 03:10:17 pm
The N920 has no keyboard and that is why Maemo 6 will be on it (Touch centric OS).

Maemo 5 is already very touch-centric, almost everything can be done with a finger.  It has both a HK and a VK.  Maemo 6 will just take it a little farther, to the point only a VK is required for everything.

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I still wonder if 5 and 6 will be blended together or is 6 replacing 5?

OS upgrades are almost always 'blended'.  Windows Vista is 'blended' with Windows 7.  Maemo 6 will 'replace' 5, but only as a next step, an update, not a totally new OS.  Maemo is basically just a Linux distro highly optimized for mobile phones and will go through generational changes like any other distro or OS.  

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...if I am not worried about the N900 being supersede within a few months, you should not be worried

Me either.  The N900 will get OTA updates such as Flash 10 and more portrait mode stuff, and could get some (many?) features from Maemo 6 backported to it.  If so, good.  If not, it won't stop working or become worse than it was.  It'll continue to be a very good unit with Maemo 5.

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Devs insist it (N920) will be capacitive though.

This appears to be likely, but nothing definitive has been said AFAIK.  It could still be resistive.  There is some possibility of it using a new combo resistive/capacitive screen.

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I think the G1 display is a little too sensitive, so a little less is good for me.  Plus you have more options with resistive (stylus, finger with or without glove).  A very sensitive resistive display seems a better option to me.

Agree completely.  A really good resistive should be like the best of both worlds.
« Last Edit: October 17, 2009, 03:17:19 pm by Crashdamage »
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October 17, 2009, 03:24:46 pm
Rushmore:  Again, watch the Engadget Show.  They have a N900 on stage, and the demo it for the crowd.

To quote Joshua Topolsky, on the screen:  "It's not good."

And Nilay Patel:  "I like Maemo 5...when you touch it and it...does stuff."

The N920 and Maemo 6 might be a ways out.  But would a capacitive "N910" be too much for ask for?  Srsly.

And what is with Nokia's space bar placement?  Maemo is great, and the hardware is almost great, but there's just a few things about (the resistive screen, the space bar) that seem to totally ruin the experience.  It's so frustrating.
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October 17, 2009, 04:51:26 pm
Again, watch the Engadget Show.  They have a N900 on stage, and the demo it for the crowd.

That Engadget video is a disgrace not a demo.  Maybe the WORST tech video I've ever wasted my time on.  They spend most of the time trying to be funny and failing.  If you watch closely, Joshua the Jokester actually kinda TRIES to fail at using the screen, like he's trying to justify his preconceptions of it, not like he's trying to actually demo it.  They give almost no real info on the N900, and obviously didn't bother to learn much of anything about it or how to use it.  Can barely figure out how to turn it on.  They have just no clue about it at all.  Engadget has regressed to hopeless iPhone fanbois.  I don't know why I watched that video, I knew it was gonna suck...

Watch another N900 video demo - ANY other N900 demo - and the screen looks pretty responsive.  Easy scrolling and swiping, very few unrecognized touches.  Looks very smooth, and the 800x480 resolution will be great.
« Last Edit: October 17, 2009, 05:01:05 pm by Crashdamage »
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October 19, 2009, 08:06:21 am
They also had a ton of apps running full in the background.  Android semi closes most apps like in a stack register when you go to another app, but Maemo runs them full like a Linux desktop.  They may have assumed the N900 does the same thing.

That is why you see some demos with smooth web, touch screen, Flash,  Ball app and media, while some demos you see show things not as smooth.  Got to close some apps- just like a desktop.
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October 19, 2009, 03:37:43 pm
I have been using my Nokia 5800xm for about a eight months and I'm perfectly satisfied with the resistive screen. I like the fact that I can use it with different input methods. Although I will admit that there's something artistic about all of those cracked glass capacitive screens  ;D