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I'll wait to see what the final build will be....GalaxyS made a lot of us assume it'd be identical once it shipped here - myself included :(

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Vibrant / Re: Samsung Galaxy S (i9000)
« on: June 24, 2010, 10:10:58 am »
Things happen here that don't happen in Japan & vice-versa. They are two different cultures, so it's really up in the air as to how Video Chat will succeed. I know my family will use it a lot!

I also think that it is universally recognized that a video chat in public is one of the stupidest things in the world.

PS - shouldn't this thread be renamed "Samsung Vibrant"? ;)

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The Wishlist Forum / Re: Samsung Galaxy S Pro
« on: June 21, 2010, 09:41:01 am »
Awesomeness! SIM Card is already being tested on the current build floating out there!
http://phandroid.com/2010/06/20/samsung-galaxy-s-pro-gets-specced/

I suspect that due to the big differences between Sprint's radio (WiMax) and everyone else's CDMA variations, it was easier for Samsung to lump all the CDMA's together into one build to test out and then a separate test bed for EV-DO. Once that's resolved I think that we'll start seeing a roll out a la Cliq - first came the KB and then the XT; for TMO it would be non-KB fir st and then the PRO. All that's left after all their testing is just to move the non-KB radio into the PRO...hope it's as easy-peasy as I'm thinking (or that I'm even correct - that would be nice to start off with! LOL)

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Locked Posts / Re: New "Nexus One-Like" Device Coming to T-Mobile?
« on: June 17, 2010, 12:51:41 pm »
With all the new phones coming out why would someone still want a N1? Yeah, the "fast" OS updates but let's face it - root / rom gets the job done, only have to do it once, and you're good to go!

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Vibrant / Re: Samsung Galaxy S (i9000)
« on: June 17, 2010, 12:46:14 pm »
I'm fine without a flash but I would prefer having it - and I hope that Galaxy S Pro comes to TMO...might be a la Cliq, that first came out with KB and then a month or two later without KB. :)

Still looks like I'm going to play the waiting game a bit longer :(

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Customer Service / Thinking of Jumping?
« on: June 16, 2010, 03:03:34 pm »
Thinking of Jumping from / to TMobile? Read this thread first for any feedback!

(hint - anyone want to share their experiences? :) )

(DRAT! No double post..i'd hate to have been the admin who had to put up with whatever it was that caused this to happen!)

Jumping FROM TMO to SPRINT:

I know, the EVO4G is a big deal right now and the Galaxy S Pro is pretty huge as well but there are some caveats to keep in mind. These are fresh from my brain atm as I just spent almost two weeks studying the decision because I am one of those that actually really needs a keyboard.

1. Customer Service
Sprint's customer service has gotten better. I do honestly mean that, as roughly 6 years ago I did have SPrint and ETF'd my way out due to the horrible, crappy, abusive, and price gouging customer service. Now, however, it seems to have gotten pretty good. I've got friends with Sprint and they keep coming back with how much better the service has gotten. But has it gotten good enough to beat Tmobile? The answer is still a resounding NO. For example, MS's Hall of Shame has them listed - and it seems as if they've been listed there since it's inception. The 2010 results show them with an improvement but hey, let's face it - they're on there and TMO isn't. (http://saf.li/88Vhe if you want to see the results).

2. Phone Quality
Sprint's learned its lesson and has started to pick up newer and better phones but this is still something new for them. True, they have high-end Android devices but who had them first? While the TMO phone quality is a work in progress (Especially true with the new CEO), Sprint's been constantly behind the 8ball in early adoption. The EVO4G is not an early adoptee phone; it took them a year or so to see what happened with TMO's Android sales to determine if they wanted to join in. EVO4G is their first "real" Android phone...so what will happen when something else comes along? You'll be waiting one year or more, again, while Sprint makes up its mind.

3. Network Quality
Sprint is using a EV-DO spec that can't quite grow as strong as TMO's HSPA, which is used almost worldwide. TMO's HSPA is a globally recognized spec that has gotten acceptance, and now with their HSPA+ upgrades they are able to offer  speeds closer or faster than the "4G" that Sprint is advertising WITHOUT charging an extra "$10" fee (which is a total joke, see #4 below).

On that note, their "4G" is not true 4G, nor does it come close to true 4G. TMO's HSPA+ is more towards 3.5G. A recent speed test / comparison showed that TMO's current HSPA+ network will give you the same, if not better, speeds. Here's TmoNews' excellent synopsis plus details: http://saf.li/d8VhC

TmoNews User FCB02062 chimes in with the following - and yes, it's pretty much up to par with the information shown above.
But TMO destroyed Sprint in my next test - network speed.  Sprint's EVDO was clocking in around 600-800 kbps, while my TMO 3G was blowing that away with results in the 1100 kbps to 1500 kbps.  No contest here.  Then I did some research on it and Sprint says on their web site that their mobile broadband will operate at 450-800 Kbps with peak rates up to 3.1 Mbps.  I haven't been anywhere near that top speed. 

4. Truth factor
Sprint gets a special bullet point. You might not see this bullet with other carriers, and it's because Sprint did something that is so stupendously ridiculous that it deserved its own spot. Many of you have heard that the $10 fee from Sprint with EVO4G purchases was for "Premium Data" via the 4G service. Well, you might have anyways as Sprint was churning out so many different answers that no one know what the heck the $10 was for. This generated so much confusion that Sprint users started comments & websites (http://www.explainthefee.com, http://saf.li/c8Vhc) to try and figure out what the $10 was for.

As you might imagine, if it's in this list, it's because they did something.

The $10 fee is not for 4G as you might have imagined; it's to help Sprint recoup the costs for the EVO4G (http://saf.li/28Vhj). That's right - you're not getting a discount AT ALL. Simple math time! The phone goes for $450 without discount. You pick up the phone, 2 year contract, $199. The extra $10 fee covers the phone for 24 months, right? $199 + $240 gives you $439, just $11 shy off the $450. Guess what, you just paid full price.

If you feel ripped off right about now, that's perfectly normal, and probably safe to assume the same thing will happen with Galaxy S Pro.

**NOTE*** WIP, WILL UPDATE / ADD MORE INFO AS IT IS AVAILABLE / PROVIDED.

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Vibrant / Re: Samsung Galaxy S (i9000)
« on: June 16, 2010, 02:03:56 pm »
@DamnofThursday....Yea because high schoolers and parents have $300 to blow on cell phones. Fail!! This phone is the most powerful Android phone announced to release this year.

Wow I'm not sure were I went wrong with what I said but that's NO WHERE NEAR WHAT I MEANT. Totally agreed, there's a ton of posts where I say that this is a great phone and that I'm really digging it (and still probably buy it) BUT - and stay with me here - KEYBOARD.

It's all demographics. I can take my G1 to a group of teens and they all say the same thing - too bulky, too wide, i don't like that keyboard, the onscreen is not responsive, i can't play games, etc. etc. However, with the CliqXT, I hear - sweet phone, awesome text, fast messaging, hey can I play this game, etc. etc. Parents nowadays are dropping $300 bucks or more a year on video game consoles, not counting the actual games themselves. This is just an extension of that mentality.

We've just got to accept that one fact - this is the demographic, and TMO is doing an awesome job playing up to it. I'm hoping for a keyboard, but after some sprint fact-finding I'm probably going to grin & bear the Galax S sans keyboard. But then again, I use it for more than games I use it for - and again stay with me - WORK.

I hope this helps clear up the issue for anyone still confused and again, I don't think I purposely meant to bash the GS but to say that parents and teens won't buy it b/c of the price tag is dead wrong. There's people already lining up to buy this and....they're older teens!

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The Wishlist Forum / Samsung Galaxy S Pro
« on: June 15, 2010, 11:00:38 am »
http://androidcommunity.com/exclusive-more-pictures-of-the-galaxy-s-pro-20100614/

not only has keyboard (win) but also FLASH :D

Man TMO needs to get this too or I'm going to have to switch...I won't be able to wait much longer :*(

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Vibrant / Re: T-Mobile Galaxy S Clears FCC
« on: June 15, 2010, 10:56:33 am »
SIgh....i really don't want to ditch TMO but at this point... :(

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Vibrant / Re: Samsung Galaxy S (i9000)
« on: June 15, 2010, 10:11:52 am »
yea forget the SGS.. the SGS Pro is where its at! http://androidcommunity.com/exclusive-more-pictures-of-the-galaxy-s-pro-20100614/

Its the same as the SGS, but it has a 5-row QWERTY (w/ 4-way directional keys).. it has the "normal" Android front buttons (no trackpad i think).. i hope Tmo will get this.

Agreed. I need the Galaxy S features a lot but the keyboard would be 100x better...I hope tmo gets this as well or i'm back to "well, maybe I should switch...".

If TMO does not get this, they are definitely shouting out "Family plans and tweens/teens only!" :*(

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Vibrant / Re: Samsung Galaxy S (i9000)
« on: June 14, 2010, 11:30:08 am »
Anyone know for sure if HDMI out will be on here? I've seen soooo many conflicting statements so far on this that it's not even funny. Youtube vids tend to have the HDMI out, but specs tend to not mention it (and I don't feel that the teaser site is a good place to speculate on items not mentioned). :D

Yeah so my bad for not reading the comments on youtube... All I need is this cable: http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=nokia+ca-75u

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Rush, it *appears* that in this sense then the Galaxy S and this Motorola are similar, correct?

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Apple / Re: iPhone Headed To T-Mobile USA in 2010/2011?
« on: June 11, 2010, 12:00:21 pm »
Everyone saw that TMO-UK is advertising for it, right?

http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/shop/coming-soon/iphone4/

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Vibrant / Re: Samsung Galaxy S (i9000)
« on: June 10, 2010, 11:33:04 pm »
Sorry guys; I thought it was in there! :(

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The Wishlist Forum / Re: New Unnamed Motorola Phone
« on: June 10, 2010, 02:11:52 pm »
Why underclock? Don't think they will let it out with the full capability?

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Vibrant / Re: Samsung Galaxy S (i9000)
« on: June 10, 2010, 12:52:55 pm »
I think the Howard Chui video has it - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w1Z9v-Wi38

This little guy though is making me wanna wait and see what happens....http://forums.tmonews.com/index.php?topic=14089.0

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The Wishlist Forum / New Unnamed Motorola Phone
« on: June 10, 2010, 12:43:28 pm »
http://www.slashgear.com/motorolas-2ghz-android-plans-for-2010-revealed-by-ceo-1089316/

Wow...nice from the looks of it!

I'm seriously considering waiting "a bit longer" (Q4) before making my decision...I'd imagine if I got the GalaxyS, an awesome phone by itself, and then this came out a few months after I'd be pretty bummed.

Any mobile CPU experts wanna take a crack at the "supposed" CPU and compare to the Galaxy S?

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Upcoming Phones / Re: T-Mobile USA Upcoming Phones 2010 New Video
« on: June 09, 2010, 01:56:57 pm »
I really feel like egging Viper on to make a parody of this. (+1)

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So, as I am not all as up on mobile CPU as I would want to be (and thanks for the info guys! I am definitely absorbing it! :)), how would this compare to say 1ghz snapdragon and the Samsung 1ghz S5PC110?

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Where in hell does it even say the processor's speed??

Endgadget post, per my previous post; read the press release that's hidden by the button.

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