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Archives / Re: New stuff
« on: October 01, 2008, 10:15:55 pm »
The Holic will be called the Gravity.

As for the Shadow & Sidekick moving to Android...well, it makes sense really. T-Mobile can spend their $$$ on making higher end devices (features, etc) as opposed to licensing an OS for each device they sell. Windows Mobile & the Blackberry OS will have their niche for the forseeable future when it comes to the "Professional Market" (Exchange/BES support, etc), but for the average consumer (which the Shadow and Sidekick are designed for anyways), the Android OS would probably be a better option.

....IMHO....
-TmoJeeves

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G1 Discussion / Re: Consequences of no data plan?
« on: October 01, 2008, 10:08:13 pm »
From everything I've seen/heard, if you have a G1 on a line without the G1 specific feature, it will essentially brick itself, much like the current Sidekicks do. You'll be able to make emergency calls, but that's it. No email, no app store, no texting, no calling, NADA. There is a way around the lockout on the Sidekick, but I've not had it confirmed one way or the other to me about the G1.

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BlackBerry Discussion / Re: 8220 launches Oct. 13th!!!
« on: September 25, 2008, 09:27:31 pm »
EDIT: Thanks to me being a complete and total idiot, I forgot about the Shadow 2009. THAT is the WinMo device that is forthcoming in October. When? I'm saying Oct. 20.

I'm going with the WinMo device being the Xeperia X1. However, I'm on vacation atm, and therefore have none of my usual info. Call that a complete and total stab in the dark.

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The Circus (lounge) / Re: How will you customize your phone?
« on: September 25, 2008, 09:25:53 pm »
Hmm...I'll probably just stick with what I've gone with thus far:
General Ring: Jennifer-The Allman Bros. (Top Gear Mix)
Dad: Diamonds from Sierra Leone (Jay-Z's bit about being a Business...man)
Mom: The Doom Song from Invader Zim
Sister: Woohoo!-The Five Six Seven Eights
Semi-Sig Other: Drive-Incubus

Background: I'll have to see the screen in person to judge the real estate I'll be playing with.

-TMJ

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HTC Windows Mobile Discussion / Re: Shadow 2 = Shadow 2009
« on: September 20, 2008, 09:45:35 am »
I'm not sure either what might happen with the current Shadow. I think they will be sold in stores side by side (ala the Pearl 8100 and 8120) for a while.

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The information that I have access to does NOT point to this as being reliable. We have one Android based device confirmed, and another pretty well rumored. One we KNOW is being built by HTC, while the other is very likely to be.

Other than that, everything that I have leaves a nice blank as far as a purported SE device, ESPECIALLY one running Android.

TmoJoe: You asked me in my thread to provide my info, or provide it to a mod for independent verification. I did this, and they cleared me. Would you be willing to do the same?

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G1 Discussion / Re: G1 Launch EVENTS, and Thoughs on "Have we seen it?
« on: September 16, 2008, 06:38:07 pm »
Now, I have NO CLUE if the launch events will be putting devices on market in those Cities/Markets during them or not.

I've also updated my original post, as I've done a LOT more analysis on stuff in channel, and had to revise my original stuff. It's my error, and feel free to point/laugh if you want.

What'd I change, for those of you looking here first? Launch date is indeed 10/22. I have my reasons for this change, but without showing you what I base it on (DarkJedi has it, and I've already PM'ed him my thoughts before posting this), I'm just going to have to ask you to take it on faith.

Trust me, the second I get info on how the preorders and launch events will go, I'll let you know.

-TmoJeeves

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G1 Discussion / Re: G1 Launch EVENTS, and Thoughs on "Have we seen it?
« on: September 16, 2008, 03:38:05 pm »
WHAT ABOUT KCMO?

Kam: I don't have ANY information in regards to that specific location. What you see is what I have so far. At this point, just assume that the phone will be able for pre-order, and you'll get one on the 13th. However, you won't have the launch event fun that some locations will.

-TmoJeeves

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G1 Discussion / Re: G1 Launch EVENTS, and Thoughs on "Have we seen it?
« on: September 16, 2008, 02:47:33 pm »
I won't know anything more on the workings of pricing and distribution until the event. At that time, I'm sure folks in my end of things will be getting a whole metric TON of stuff on our plates about this.

If I get anything good that won't get me fired, I'll be happy to share.

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G1 Discussion / Re: G1 Launch EVENTS, and Thoughs on "Have we seen it?
« on: September 16, 2008, 02:39:34 pm »
Karma might not pay the bills, but it's certainly nice regardless.

I will say what I passed to DJ was very dry, and boring stuff for the most part. So...if you don't see a huge post...at least I was honest with y'all, right?
-TmoJeeves

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G1 Discussion / Re: G1 Launch EVENTS, and Thoughs on "Have we seen it?
« on: September 16, 2008, 02:19:30 pm »
TmoJoe:
DarkJedi has the info that I based this post on. I'm leaving it to him to decide HOW to post it up, as it is the complete, unredacted, internal document. At the very least, I'll hope he can come back in and say that he thinks I'm legit.
-TmoJeeves

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G1 Discussion / Re: G1 Launch EVENTS, and Thoughs on "Have we seen it?
« on: September 16, 2008, 02:00:14 pm »
I'm talking with a few folks now on how to pass this info along to you. Won't say much else other than it's being handled.

The Launch Events are PROBABLY in Tmo's biggest markets just to let people see the phone, and help them pre-order/order it (after 10/13). Just because you don't see your city, and you have 3G, doesn't mean that you won't be able to get the device.

-TmoJeeves

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HTC Windows Mobile Discussion / Re: Shadow 2 = Shadow 2009
« on: September 16, 2008, 01:30:50 pm »
I'm going to side with Some Dude here, and back him up on the Shadow being called the Shadow 2009.

Also, call this idle speculation, but I see the release date being on/near 10/23. (My crystal ball tells me that one...)

-TmoJeeves

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G1 Discussion / Re: G1 Launch EVENTS, and Thoughs on "Have we seen it?
« on: September 16, 2008, 01:26:45 pm »
BMoreDave: I'll address your questions in the order you posed them.
1) I do have evidence of these launch events, but they are from internal documents. I'm not sure how the forum would feel about those being handed out. If a mod would like to get up with me, I can provide it to them for distribution as they see fit.
2) I left that blank on accident, as I hit post thread instead of preview. It is filled in now.
3) Presale info has NOT been released to anyone in my channel as of yet (at least that I've seen). I can make some educated guesses on it, but nothing cement.

Escentz: 10/7 in San Francisco is what I've seen in my documents. For some reason, I put 8's instead of 10's. Why? I blame lack of sleep....

Also, as for these "Launch Events", I'd be willing to bet that these are to get people excited and pre-ordering, and not actually get the devices on market until the 13th.
-TmoJeeves

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G1 Discussion / G1 Launch EVENTS, and Thoughs on "Have we seen it?
« on: September 16, 2008, 01:04:52 pm »
Hey guys:
I'm a long time lurker, and first time poster. After reading all the storm over what the G1 may or may not be (It's the FCC leaked phone/the one we've seen forever vs. the Oh no it isn't camps), I figured I'd weigh in on things a wee bit, as well as throw some more fuel on the fire.

Firstly, you guys can go ahead and mark your calendars for Sept. 23 for the launch event. As per a few internal documents that come across my desk, there is a PR event scheduled for that day. From that day forward, there are handset launch events in various cities up until the 22nd of October (G1 Day we'll call it).
I've never seen a multi-city tour for phone launches before, so this must be SOMETHING huge. What could be this huge? Thats right, the G1.

Handset Launch Event Cities and Dates:
9/23-New York
9/24-New Jersey (City not specified)
9/25-Philadelphia
10/6-Dallas
10/7-San Francisco
10/8-Los Angeles
10/9-San Diego
10/10-Seattle
10/13-UMTS Phase II Rollout
10/14-Miami
10/15-Atlanta
10/16-Chicago
10/17-Phoenix
10/21-Houston
10/22-Minneapolis

G1 Nationwide Availability: 10/22

Now that I've gotten SOME of your attention, my thoughts on if we've seen the "Real" G1, or not:
I think that the device we've seen demo'ed in numerous photos, videos, etc is in fact, the real G1. (My thoughts, not confirmed in any way).

Having said that, Tmo and Google could pull an Apple very easily with the PR Event on the 23rd of this month. If you remember the original iPhone launch, Apple demo'ed the unit, and THEN sent it to the FCC for approval, to minimize leaks. HTC could easily sneak approval paperwork into the FCC under our noses, with a confidentiality date such that we'd never even KNOW about the device until we saw it for the first time on the 23rd.

Why bother? Andy Ruben said it best, "We don't want to waste anyone's time". One of the HUGE draws to the iPhone wasn't just it's OS, but also it's looks. Like or Hate Apple, you have to admit, it is a slick piece of tech, especially with the 1st gen one was launched in comparison to the market.

What does this mean for us? I'd honestly be ready for the G1 to be a technology demo piece. That is, a phone that blows the hardcore early adopters out of the water with it's features, and build quality (notice I didn't mention looks...). Sometime soon thereafter (probably once the early adopters have come in, kinks have been worked out, and the marketplace is well populated), you can expect to see a sleek, svelte, "iPhone Killer" make it's way out of the woodwork, and into the hands of the masses.

So dude, there you have it. And yes, everything AFTER the release dates is pure speculation on my part. Everything else is legit.

What do YOU think?
-TmoJeeves

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